he has to make the case as to why obama's record is wrong which won't be news. he has to address the concern that a lot of people have and 47% video didn't help that he would favor the rich over the middle-class. he has to explain why his economic plan would actually help the middle-class is the best plan for the middle-class. it's not just about protecting romney's rich friends. farce is the president is concerned, if its wash, that is fine. he doesn't need to score an knockout blow. if it's a tie he comes out ahead. i think he'll go after romney and make that same pointed that romney's plans is protecting the rich. and also, this is key since the democratic convention, they seem to have gotten people to feel more optimistic about the economy. polls indicate that people are not as pessimistic about the economy he has to keep up that belief. >> eric: that sounds like it's fascinating interview. we can't wait until wednesday night. >> me, too. this is one of those moments, no scripts, you want to see what happens. >> eric: get the popcorn, get the pillows. you ca